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	<title>Comments on: A Killing in the Hills by Julia Keller &#8211; a review</title>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://barbarafister.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/a-killing-in-the-hills-by-julia-keller-a-review/#comment-1712</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are rules and rules. Elmore Leonard has ten of them (though makes it clear that you should break them if it is going to work). I think they are a mix of advice and a list of his pet peeves. Never start with the weather; never use any verb other than &quot;said&quot; to indicate who is talking - not &quot;retorted&quot; or &quot;insisted&quot; - and leave out the parts readers skip. But I also once skimmed through a &quot;how to write a mystery&quot; book (they are legion) and it was basically &quot;here&#039;s how to write a formula mystery.&quot; That was kind of depressing, though helpful if that was what you were trying to do. 

But there are also creative writing class rules (or so I understand - having never taken one) which include not being too precious with your descriptions, or as it usually is relayed (and I have no idea who first said it) &quot;you must murder your little darlings.&quot; 

In Keller&#039;s case, if there were any similes that made her smile, they probably were ones that made me smile too. There were a lot of them, and in other hands they could have been irritating, like those &quot;aren&#039;t I clever&quot; lines of dialogue that private eyes often overdo, but she did it very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are rules and rules. Elmore Leonard has ten of them (though makes it clear that you should break them if it is going to work). I think they are a mix of advice and a list of his pet peeves. Never start with the weather; never use any verb other than &#8220;said&#8221; to indicate who is talking &#8211; not &#8220;retorted&#8221; or &#8220;insisted&#8221; &#8211; and leave out the parts readers skip. But I also once skimmed through a &#8220;how to write a mystery&#8221; book (they are legion) and it was basically &#8220;here&#8217;s how to write a formula mystery.&#8221; That was kind of depressing, though helpful if that was what you were trying to do. </p>
<p>But there are also creative writing class rules (or so I understand &#8211; having never taken one) which include not being too precious with your descriptions, or as it usually is relayed (and I have no idea who first said it) &#8220;you must murder your little darlings.&#8221; </p>
<p>In Keller&#8217;s case, if there were any similes that made her smile, they probably were ones that made me smile too. There were a lot of them, and in other hands they could have been irritating, like those &#8220;aren&#8217;t I clever&#8221; lines of dialogue that private eyes often overdo, but she did it very well.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy d.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kathy d.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good review here.  I agree with it wholeheartedly.  What I found was that it zeroed in on a small town in West Virginia and showed the impact of the economic crisis on the people there -- the joblessness or low-wage, dead-end jobs,  foreclosures, car repossessions, lack of health insurance, hunger, hopelessness and desperation.  The book said so much about this.
This is all juxtaposed with the beauty of the environment.
I didn&#039;t catch any forbidden cliches so I was fine with the writing.
It&#039;s interesting that you compare this book with Denise Mina&#039;s writing.  I can see that.
Now that I&#039;m in the midst of Broken Harbor by Tana French, I&#039;d say there are parallels here, too.  There is the economic crisis n Ireland,, with the lay-offs and lack of income, with increasing desperation.
These writers all look at the bigger picture.  They&#039;re writing a murder mystery in the context of larger social issues and crisis.
For me this is always good.  I can&#039;t think of a better way to get the feel for a country, for a city, for what people are going through, than with a good mystery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good review here.  I agree with it wholeheartedly.  What I found was that it zeroed in on a small town in West Virginia and showed the impact of the economic crisis on the people there &#8212; the joblessness or low-wage, dead-end jobs,  foreclosures, car repossessions, lack of health insurance, hunger, hopelessness and desperation.  The book said so much about this.<br />
This is all juxtaposed with the beauty of the environment.<br />
I didn&#8217;t catch any forbidden cliches so I was fine with the writing.<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that you compare this book with Denise Mina&#8217;s writing.  I can see that.<br />
Now that I&#8217;m in the midst of Broken Harbor by Tana French, I&#8217;d say there are parallels here, too.  There is the economic crisis n Ireland,, with the lay-offs and lack of income, with increasing desperation.<br />
These writers all look at the bigger picture.  They&#8217;re writing a murder mystery in the context of larger social issues and crisis.<br />
For me this is always good.  I can&#8217;t think of a better way to get the feel for a country, for a city, for what people are going through, than with a good mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: bernadetteinoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bernadetteinoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are rules? such strict ones? who decides what is essential and what isn&#039;t? I suspect this is why I get annoyed by the genre-isation of fiction - I &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; description when done well as it is here (or in the books of Adrian Hyland or Denise Mina as you compare her to). Books devoid of &#039;non-essential&#039; description are (in my mind) things like Lee Child&#039;s which I find boring and unengaging. So all power to the rule breakers :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are rules? such strict ones? who decides what is essential and what isn&#8217;t? I suspect this is why I get annoyed by the genre-isation of fiction &#8211; I <i>like</i> description when done well as it is here (or in the books of Adrian Hyland or Denise Mina as you compare her to). Books devoid of &#8216;non-essential&#8217; description are (in my mind) things like Lee Child&#8217;s which I find boring and unengaging. So all power to the rule breakers :)</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks - I found I loved the descriptions, though I did at first think of the &quot;rules&quot; that ask you to strip out anything that isn&#039;t essential (unless you are writing literary fiction, I would guess...which seems often quite focused on describing things in clever ways, with momentum optional). It was such an interesting mix because it is quite a rich and loving picture of a place, which nevertheless doesn&#039;t shy away from its very serious problems. 

I get a similar sense of fond frustrated affection in Denise Mina&#039;s books for Glasgow. Perhaps its my advancing age, but I want some honest affection for humanity and for everyday experiences in my books, not just lyrical cynicism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I found I loved the descriptions, though I did at first think of the &#8220;rules&#8221; that ask you to strip out anything that isn&#8217;t essential (unless you are writing literary fiction, I would guess&#8230;which seems often quite focused on describing things in clever ways, with momentum optional). It was such an interesting mix because it is quite a rich and loving picture of a place, which nevertheless doesn&#8217;t shy away from its very serious problems. </p>
<p>I get a similar sense of fond frustrated affection in Denise Mina&#8217;s books for Glasgow. Perhaps its my advancing age, but I want some honest affection for humanity and for everyday experiences in my books, not just lyrical cynicism.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto, I really liked this book (knowing nothing about it or the author before I read it), and glad you did, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto, I really liked this book (knowing nothing about it or the author before I read it), and glad you did, too.</p>
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		<title>By: bernadetteinoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bernadetteinoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great review Barbara and not just because I agree with your opinion about the book. Though I do...read it some weeks ago now and still can remember it quite vividly which is not always a given...I loved the description of &#039;the shabby afterthought of a town...&#039;and didn&#039;t know it was using some thing considered a no no in writing circles - I found that whole passage made it really wasy for me to picture the place and the juxtapostion of natural beauty with the decline of the man-made environment. Agree too there are similarities to Mina&#039;s work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Barbara and not just because I agree with your opinion about the book. Though I do&#8230;read it some weeks ago now and still can remember it quite vividly which is not always a given&#8230;I loved the description of &#8216;the shabby afterthought of a town&#8230;&#8217;and didn&#8217;t know it was using some thing considered a no no in writing circles &#8211; I found that whole passage made it really wasy for me to picture the place and the juxtapostion of natural beauty with the decline of the man-made environment. Agree too there are similarities to Mina&#8217;s work</p>
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